Fwiw, currently 13 votes/opinions not counting other responses by folks… Jackpot V2 - #46 by azab2c
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Agree. Actually I wouldn’t bet on this helping much at all.
I still have a macine using a uno and cnc control v3. And all the in-between the jackpot is great and so much easier. I still connect my laptop to do edits at the machine but that is me and don’t think support is expexted for my 1 case use. Vetric is nice that way.
You see all the data and I just see snapshots. Everything i do is for fun unfortunately not everything you deal with is so make it easy to manage and controll or burnout will follow. You are doing great and we all appreciate not being limited and we try to work within our limits and be supportive of the community 
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Not to mention. How many emails / post will you get because someone broke the antenna/socket trying to hook it up? I know I have broken one on a CB1 before. Its not hard to do.
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You know, I can just change the 4 wire connectors on the jackpot v1 and people can make their own choice. No instructions to change, nothing.
I like the jackpot 2 but adding the jumpers for output selection honestly took away the whole, “i don’t need to assemble anything”
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How about screw terminals or attachment poins for a solder on for the technicality advanced ?or does this not work.
Sorry looks like im behind again 
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there is not a Wroom option with a built in choice, only on the newer esp32’s
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Yeah this one annoys the hell out of me. Windows boxes and even the latest few Ubuntu 24.04 machines I’ve had will automatically switch away from a network “without internet access” on their own accord.
I really like FluidNC, but Marlin and Klipper are also legit control software.
I may try grblHAL now that I’ve become aware it can run on a Jackpot.
I’m building a pair to play with on my machines.
I like the M5 pendant, but decided the screen is just too small.
The draw for STA mode is you don’t have to have your phone or computer on a network without internet, so you can use one device for all your stuff, including running your V1 machine.
Pendant interface is an embedded protocol. You could do as you describe, but you’d need an app on the phone side and would have to do it over websocket. Not a terrible option, if someone would DO it.
No, if you have an alternative option that costs a little bit more but serves a niche with a need, you can warrant a bit higher price on that botique ottion.
I love the pendant, but now that I have options I’m exploring the larger CYD as an upgrade.
Pendants definately have a purpose. For example, the already mentioned power up and move the machine, do other stuff. With nothing but walking up needed to get that done.
Eventually someone will come along and pay Mitch and Bart to finish the ESP-32 S3 support. Maybe we can crowdfund it?
Then lots of other options open up.
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and is it possible to have pcb antenna which ends with solder pads so one can solder extension to it? Sorry, I don’t know a lot about radios 
That would work for people with soldering iron? Or ones who so desperately want it so they go to some local solder guy who does this for them for little money 
That said, I agree that having more expensive brothers and sisters of Jackpot which solve niche problems is absolutely acceptable.
I have had the opposite issue. I have not been able to reliably get AP mode to work. I am using a windows laptop and I think that is the issue. What makes it worse is when it disconnects, the laptop reverts to my home Wifi and I have to go back in and change the wifi connect to get back to FluidNC. STA mode works pretty solid. It is about 50ft from a wifi node in my house (the LR4 is in a shed).
If you’ll take my advice please consider a direct on board SMA for the antenna rather than that board plug. They are too delicate and easy to damage.
Something like this lets you attach a whip antenna or a short flylead and is at much less risk of damage.
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This is the dreaded “use this network as is” that is made worse with uiV3. very very irritating.
in reality the end user doesn’t really care. if it did everything needed they would never have to touch it. I am very interested in grblHAl.
In place of webui? Or like an android and iphone app?
but not the 7" elecrow tablet, is it because of the jog wheel? I honestly think I could get the pendant manufactured very inexpensively in relatively small quantities.
Maslow says he has no issues but his port was before a few “major upgrades”.
What options exactly?? I can easily wait for a new board and invest some money in dev. Last I looked I thought it actually cost a few pins and only got us better wifi?
With that said does grblhal support the s3 already, I think it does.
In the end I just want what is best for the money.
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That is already on the ESP32 can’t change it or I would have already. I am very afraid of the delicate little miniature plug my fat hands have a hard time using.
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“If you are going to use native USB for the main connection it will be a somewhat faster. Other than that it will be comparable to a plain ESP32.
Native USB and more pins available are the main plusses, a negative is that RMT stepping is only available for up to four steppers vs. eight for the plain ESP32. And I2S stepping was hard to crack but should be ok now, except for 16 bit.” ESP 32 S3 Support with and without I2S · grblHAL/ESP32 · Discussion #107 · GitHub
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I don’t need to go back, I stayed there the whole time! 
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This looks cool.
RE: AP vs. STA - I have tried both. The WiFi in my shop is not great, so STA mode frequently causes issues with file transfer or disconnecting from the machine and I can’t stop jobs gone awry, have to yank the cord (e-stop pending…). AP mode is seamless, and never disconnects, but the machine stalls from time to time because (I assume) the ESP is busy doing AP stuff.
On LEDs - I hear you about $limits being a better option, but I just disagree. When I am futzing with the wiring, it is simply more useful to be able to keep my eye on the Jackpot LEDs (I am already looking at the machine) than looking back and forth between machine and laptop. Separately, having an LED on the probe connection has saved me a lot of time debugging probe issues. I didn’t see in this thread why the LEDs are going away, maybe I missed something. But they seem relatively low-cost/complexity for the benefit.
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And regarding computers switching off networks without internet – this is a setting you can turn off on every OS I am aware of. I’d be happy to add a blurb to the docs describing how to do it.
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Dang I don’t know what I was thinking. Sorry everyone.
This board was supposed to be the easy board. The v1 can easily accept an external antenna, no reason to have both antenna versions of the new design. If anything, the V2 has one less output. Other than that, functionality is 100% the same. V1 can have either antenna style, problem solved, no extra boards need to be produced.
I have been doing everything possible to make better heat dissipation to try and get rid of the heat sinks as well (which might already be fine, definitely with a fan and slight board box redesign).
So now, any ideas about getting rid of the voltage jumpers? Maybe a tiny switch?
How exactly should I test the board thermals. It is around 100F here now so I can easily test in the hot shop. 2 hours of steppers running a carve or something 3D and see if it returns home to the exact same spot? Is there any debug to see if there is a thermal throttle on the TMC’s?
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No brainer for $0.02, Slide Switches | Electronic Components Distributor | LCSC Electronics way cheaper than ordering and hand packing jumpers.
So I can also put a thermocouple on the driver ship in the middle of the pack while it is running. I do not have a data logger for it but I can check every 15 minutes or something. We know the thermal throttle temp, if it gets even remotely close to that they need heat sinks.
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