Tangential cutting with knife

In my searches, I didn’t find any DIY tangential or drag knife that have some properly bearing uses. The knife have an axial load from the pressure against the table, and radial and moment load from the knife drag, and there the knife rotation.

I have tried use a trust bearing for the axial load, ball bearings for radial load, moment load and axis rotation, and linear bushings for the up/down mouvements and moment loads.

The more problematic load seems the moment, so I have used 3 axis for linear up/down motion in a radial way so that moment is well spread no matter what direction is the drag.

Well that’s the theory, hope it’s gonna be great!

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Neat project! Already looked at stepperonline’s planetary gearboxes and dual shaft stepper for slimmer assembly (or encoder instead of dual shaft)? No idea if their 3:1 or 5:1 gearboxes can handle loads you’re targeting. Look forward to seeing how your project turns out.

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That would be phase 2. It’s no bigger then a Makita router, and way much lighter…

Pulleys and belt should be fine here, the rotation load is not big. With a 1:3 pulleys ratio, it’s wa better then a direct coupling and no stress on the stepper…

We’ll see after tests!

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I’ve look into the gear reducer stepper, it looks like a great idea! You’re talking about something like that? It would make it more compact but a bit taller… But it’s something to tinker with. In cost, I think it’s cheaper : pulleys and belt versus coupling and stepper/reducer…

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It looks like the planetary gearboxes have some backlash. It seems less convenient for lots of small rotation changes in both direction. The cheap one from Aliexpress is ~2°.

I’ll stick with driving belt for the moments wich as near zero backlash.

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I’ve ordered all hardare except the main shaft. I can’t find an 8mm dia x190mm shaft with 25mm long flats at both ends.

Ant idea? Canada would be better for me but I’m opened…

Flats are not a must, but it would be better for driving pulley and blade holder.

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I see no other option, you must treat yourself to a Dremel/Angle-grinder and potentially a vice for this project :slight_smile:

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I agree, for such a low torque use I am sure a little hand filed flat will work great.

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That is very tall, will you run it with LR or MPCNC?

Relative to the table? From my analisys, it seems just a little lower then the Makita router…

It’s for an LR4 tool mount.

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Got it, that makes sense, I have seen them in the router collet! Nice work!

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Cant wait to see it in action!

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I have received my tangential oriented cutting knife hardware parts orders, but they got the micro switch and the rods wrong, not my fault this time… So I can’t assemble anything since rods diameter are wrong.

But I did forgot to order the driving belt… Bugger !

I’ll unfortunately have to wait a little bit longer to do a full assembly…

I’ll keep this thread updated!

Just also found that trust bearing are the wrong size (my bad)…

I have tested assembly and found some interferences. So I still need to do some work on the model… But so far so good for the functionalities, looks sturdy and operational!



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Finally got my 6mm shafts and trust bearing.

I’m pretty excited with the results, rotation is so smooth and knife is spring loaded on 3 linear axis. So ball bearings for rotation, trust bearing for axial force and linear rails for spring loaded motion!

3:1 ratio for stepper rotation axis with belt.

I’m still missing my homing micro switch with roller, received the wrong type again!

Next step is the actual Low Rider built, I really need to make some space for it in my garage and I’m depress by the mess I need to sort out for it!

I know I’ve started reversed, tool first then cnc, but I was looking a the garage like a kid looks at broccoli…

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looks really nice. What are you planning to do with it? I use a drag knife to cur the base of my skis but the knife is much simpler. Are the instructions, list of components and stls available?

I could not be more aligned with this statement, haha!! I assembled my LR in the kitchen but haven’t officially set it up to try it out yet because I need to deal with my mess in the garage! I feel your pain!!

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I’m doing nothing yet, I had a plan for cardboard furniture…So the tool is ready, I need to work on my LowRider now!

It’s an oriented knife, so you need a fourth axis driver to rotate the knife. But you could use it like a drag knife if no stepper installed.

My goal is to have a tangential cutting knife that could be easily swap with a router on an LR4.

For stl and parts list, I’m not ready to make them available yet, not without testing.

I also need to work on a processor or find one to manager the knife axis, lifts and plunges.

So still lot of works to be done!

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That is a great looking build so far.

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So what will you use to make your code for the stepper?

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GRBL-Plotter has options for drag knife and tangential knife (oriented), so I’ll use it for my tests.

Later maybe I’ll work something with Fusion 360 since I’m a big user.

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