LowRider 3 - Plasma Build "On a Budget" - Clarksburg, WV

The new Y axis drag chain is more recent and I had not posted much about it yet.

Here’s a video:

The drag chain holders are available on Printables here: Printables

The big 90-degree raceway should soon be up on my Patreon page here: Patreon

Update: the “Drag Chain 90 raceway curve” is indeed now available on my Patreon page, but that was a huge print, so I also offered a revision of it that’s split into three pieces so it can be accomplished on a normal printer.

The connector part should be printed as oriented in the STL, not as shown for assembly (for strength in layer lines). Print orientation:

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I feel sheepish. For the dip switches on the TB6600 I had assumed “up” was on. But according to this Amazon image from the sale listing, “down” is on. ??

@vicious1 is that how you are reading yours? Down is on?

One reason this may matter is earlier (post above) where I mentioned what I thought @kd2018’s and your power settings were, I was possibly misreading the chart because of having on and off backwards in my head.

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Yup, that caught me initially as well.

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I am sensing that the Amazon image was made by someone for whom English is not their first language. Can anyone confirm which is on? Down or Up?

Does “switch down Dial is ON” mean “The switch illustration below is set to ON” or “In the switch illustration dialing downwards is ON”?

Down is on, there is a small “on” with an arrow printed on the dip.

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Thank you!! LOL

I actually thought that said ONI. LOL

OK another minor milestone reached: I figured out the homing setup in LinuxCNC well enough to get a successful cycle test (dry run of a cut without plasma turned on).

Now I turn my attention to getting the height set right for the probing with floating Z, and the pierce height and cutting height, etc.

Looks like I’m running 16 micro steps / 1.5 amps.

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Yes, and my earlier read on how many amps you were running was way off because I was confused on which direction was on!

I now have my dip switches set exactly like yours as shown in your photo.

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My steppers might not like being run at 1.5A, that is a lot. We run the LR at .8 normally.

Well who knows with all the conversions that go on on the 2209’s maybe we are not at .8. The steppers can withstand up to a burst of 2.5A, but keep a real close eye on the temps. They will get hot enough to melt the printed parts in a hurry if you are not careful.

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For what it’s worth I’m running these steppers, I don’t remember how they compare exactly to what Ryan spec’ed back in '18. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QEYADRQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

My build followed @uthayne 's build (SOMD - Lowrider Plasma CNC), I upped the amperage based on his experience. I believe he mentioned back then that the extra amperage should help with faster accelerations that plasma calls for.

I’ve never really personally wrapped my head around stepper specs, curves, etc. @vicious1 is the expert, I say start with his recommendations and maybe tweak your way up if you have to.

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I’m switching to 1 amp and will see how it goes!

In another aspect of this, what should real world pierce height be? And what should real world cut height be?

Every machine is different, check your machine’s manual. If your manual doesn’t have any suggestions then as a reference mine suggests a pierce height of 0.15in (3.8mm) and a cut height of 0.06in (1.5mm). You could start there and fine tune with lots of testing.

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Thanks! You are the man!

I will check to see if my manual gives any help. I feel sheepish for not looking there first.

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@kd2018 and @vicious1:

Quick question about stepper direction and homing setup in LinuxCNC:

Are these three changes all equivalent, meaning they all accomplish the same end result?

  • In the PNCconf setup wizard, select the “invert” checkbox option for step gen
  • In the INI file, add or remove “minus” from the STEP_SCALE value
  • In the machine’s wiring, flip the stepper wiring

Yes for the last two anyway. For pncconf make sure it’s direction and not step signal… I think

That’s three different ways to do it, only need to pick one though.

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OK, this part → “make sure it’s direction and not step signal”

…is an area where I still have confusion. Thanks!

I finally have a fully working, perfectly orienting homing setup and motion control system. It could probably be tweaked to avoid having to manually edit the INI file to remove minuses from the STEP_SCALE values!

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Re. inverting in PNCconf, there are two options:

Invert on TB3, where homing is done with INM inputs, and invert on TB1/TB2 for Step Gen-A.

I think I was mistakenly doing the latter instead of the former. Does the former change direction of travel? And if so, what does the latter do?

This is an area where I still have confusion.

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