Easy(?) Inlays again... deja vu, or just another rabbit hole?

Recently, I’ve been testing my latest machine build – MPR&P – to see just what it can do. I’ve been quite surprised with the spindle testing I’ve done… and am completely shocked that these small 775 motors, used as spindles on many cheap desktop CNC machines, are as capable as they are. They are not toys, as I previously thought, and make IMO a very nice accessory for MPR&P.

I’ve done some faux “drag racing”… patterning some of my testing after the 'CNC drag races" thread that Ryan instigated several years ago. Rather than “unlimited” as those drag races were, however, I limited myself to using just the 775 spindle motors and shrunk the V1 test logo by 50% in all three dimensions. I also used some white pine scraps I had on hand rather than using the standard MDF used in the real drag races… and attained some pretty solid cuts with 6mm DOC and a feedrate of 1000 mm/min with a 3.175mm single-flute end mill. But rather than pushing it further, I’ve decided to move on to other things.

And V-carved inlays have been a topic of discussion recently with the early releases of MillMage. So, with laser cut inlays experience under my belt, I’ve been looking into how accomplish them with MPR&P. I ran across this very well done video put out by IDG Woodcraft and took advantage of the offer of a free instruction kit (and a bunch of emails offering other stuff) for the feather inlay… including the gcode files for the Longmill CNC used in the video.

I uploaded the 1/8" end-mill (similar to bit used on the Longmill) roughing gcode for the feather inlay piece straight into MPR&P… completely unaltered. A first attempt was running beautifully but ended with a USB disconnect between UGS and GRBL about 5000 lines into the 5400+ line job. The hole in the catalpa board (and my new work surface) is the result of me working through the mid-job disconnect problem. I’m now using Jeff’s V1Pi and CNC.js once again…

In action and a bit noisy… but it is a ROUGHING cut. Please turn down your volume…

I don’t have a proper 1/4" V-bit (I have one on order from IDC…) to finish the full-sized feather project but have since moved on see if I can process my own inlays. I’m not about to spend the $$$ on the expensive V-Carve software that is most often used for such things… and being a Linux user, the pickins’ seemed pretty slim. I’ve played a bit with F-Engrave, which apparently can do V-carving and inlays, but got bogged down pretty much in the differences in terminology used. I’ve gotten both pocket and inlay gcode files… but nothing close to a proper fit.

Then I stumbled on to this video which quite nicely explains the major issue I was having…

He’s using Carbide Create to do the inlays here and I had no idea it could do that. But, of course, Carbide Create (which I though was just another Easel or somesuch) isn’t a Linux program. But there’s this “new” thing called Bottles for Linux users… that allows running M$-stuff, if you hafta, on your Linux box. I had recently loaded Bottles on my Debian laptop because I was pretty sure I was gonna hafta resort to using Estlcam… just to keep up with @Tokoloshe and his impressive inlay work.

Carbide Create is a free download so I downloaded it and installed it thru Bottles. It ran great… but, turns out, with CC7 and later they don’t allow gcode output without your $$$ for PRO and a subscription. Fortunately, turns out, CC6 is still available for download and DOES ALLOW gcode output… and it’ll do all the stuff the guy does in the video! And it runs quite nicely in Bottles (though the font in quite small but mostly readable)… and has a GRBL postprocessor built in. Another nicety in CC6, it has a pretty extensive tool database… and when selecting the tools and setting in the toolpaths, they provide recommended feed rates and cutting parameters. I didn’t have to guess… and fairly good feed rates magically appeared in the gcode.

I’m waiting on the glue to dry. The inlay may look like crap when I cut it open but for a first real attempt… I’m very encouraged. I’m also having to deal with tool changes and probing for the first time… so it really is a rabbit hole I’m stumbling down right now.

But I’m having a blast with MPR&P… more so than with any machine I’ve ever built.

Gotta stop for now… later.

– David

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I must say… That thing is QUITE IMPRESSIVE!!! It has been a joy to see this progress and how capable it is.

I didn’t notice any real deflection in it either with that much Z travel which is even more impressive.

Cant wait to see how your inlay turns out when its complete!

Looks like the only thing you are missing now is some dust collection :rofl:

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yes!!!

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Looks really great, hope it turns out well! Also, @Jonathjon needs to feel a bit of peer pressure so he can finally do his inlay… :wink:

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As expected there’s a good deal of chipout where thin fingers in soft pine and/or catalpa couldn’t stand up to the rigors of being closely shaved. And maybe I was going too fast since the gcode auto-magically used the recommended speeds and feeds from similar, but different, bits than I used. And just maybe MPR&P isn’t up to the task of doing small inlays in crappy woods. And maybe my simple clamping method allowed for too much material vibration while cutting…

And maybe it’s just me… not knowing what I’m doing!

But, still, from a “proper” viewing distance, it’s almost recognizable as a feather

:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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That doesn’t look bad at all. I bet if you slow down that gcode a bit it would look even better.

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Looks great for a first inlay. I mean, you chose a pretty complex thing to cut… :slight_smile:

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Thanks, guys, for the kind words. I’m pretty happy with this first attempt. I just need to start playing more with the different bits and cutting parameters… and use some better hardwoods to do real inlay work. One of the real differences in laser inlays and these is that without tool forces on the wood… lasering is not nearly so picky about the woods being used.

There’s obviously a lot to learn but I find playing with all this new stuff great fun… and always have!

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Been wondering about that myself. The big stuff is no big deal for such a small machine… but it’s the fine dust you don’t see that’s starting to show up everywhere.

On a very early machine, I added dust collection and really didn’t know enough to struggle with the design; i.e. shopvac on the floor, pipe clamp sticking straight up to clamp the hose to, and let the hose just drape over to where the router was. I discovered then that MDF cut/routed so nicely (but was so dusty!), I thought every other material should cut/rout as easily also…

Well now I have one of these…

and a 3d printer… and wondering what I might do with those two long metal tubes that run right down next to that spinney thing…

Now I guess I oughta talk to Tux about the “greater good” and get him to move over and give me room to manufacture a manifold to access those two boreholes next to him…

maybe I… erm, we… can come up with something that’ll help the cause. I’m sure it won’t be the best dust collection setup but it’ll be fun… and maybe it’ll help a bit.

Later.

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Getting closer… 1st SWAG at dust collection.

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A great solution Dave. It has been both fun and a learning experience following along with you on this adventure.

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Thanks, Britt, for the kind words. We’ll find out how “great” it is when I get off my butt and start actually doing stuff with the machine…
:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Very cool!

But what does MR&P stand for?

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R&P stands for Rack and Pinion. The build above has been dubbed MPR&P (Mostly Printed Rack & Pinion), where gears are used instead of belts and lead screws.

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