3rd axis insanity

So, my CNC went into mothballs after I had a knob failure a while back. (RAMBo stops responding to knob - Mostly Printed CNC - MPCNC / Troubleshooting - V1E.com Forum) I moved on to other projects and tools for a while, but today I decided to try again as I realized I could just bypass the knob and use an old laptop and cncjs to get around the knob issue.

I expect I still need to replace hardware because even with a good usb connection and controls working through cncjs I have the strangest problem: As soon as a move on the third axis, one of the Y access motors will go into a weird vibration mode, like it’s trying to hold still against an external force. It seems it will continue to move correctly despite the horrible noise and oscillation (but of course I don’t trust it for an actual job, I was just doing setup and running through some tests).

In case that wasn’t clear, it doesn’t matter the order of movements. I can move X and Y all day long and everything is fine. As soon as a move Z, it goes crazy. Nothing I do aside from a reset will get it to “release”. After the reset, I might move Z and Y, and can continue as long as I want, but as soon as I move X…insanity. Reset→move Z, X, then Y kicks it off.

I did reload the firmware, just in case, and reset all the connectors, but that made no change.

I’ve accepted that I will be replacing the controller, but this is just such an odd problem that doesn’t seem like hardware, since it is inconsistent, so just wondering if anyone has ever seen a similar issue.

Also wondering what I can do to isolate/prevent feedback power surges when manually moving the CNC head, since I suspect that could have caused some of the damage originally, but that’s just a guess. e.g. Would diodes in the motor lines be helpful?

Just move it slowly without sudden acceleration. No race car movements, only turtle movements.

My understanding is that if you’re lighting up LEDs on the controller you’re going too fast.

True! SKR and other Marlin boards with LCD displays show this sign under motion. Jackpots generall don’t have LCDs or pendants that show it.

My advice is to move the machine around slowly if by hand. Almost frustratingly slowly. If you move it at the speed it moves in use, you’re already moving it fast enough to damage the controller when it is off.

I wouldn’t be certain that it’s necessarily a controller hardware issue. While it’s certainly a possible culprit, a failing or borderline adequate power supply could also cause something like this, particularly given your symptom of only seeing an issue when using more than any two of the axis.

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Oh, Cool, that is certainly a possibility. I just grabbed the first 12v power supply I found lying around, so I’ll definitely check into this.

I certainly know I’m not supposed to move it that fast, but it’s so easy to forget, I was hoping there was a way to make it slightly idiot proof.

Just don’t do it. When you’re done with the machine, jog it to a park position that’s not going to be in your way. When you go to use the machine, jog it to where you need it.

There was a guy on here that didn’t understand why we were all “jogging so much”. This is why. :wink:

You can configure a macro to move to a defined park position, too.

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Jogging is not a weight loss demand unless it’s wallet weight :roll_eyes: its kind of reversed if you jog it keeps the loss down.

omg @dos You deserve a reward! Swapped out the power supply and everything is working great. The knob issue may be gone too. It was always slightly intermittent, but it hasn’t yet happened again since I switched and I definitely would have expected it by now. TY TY TY TY!

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You can give a small reward by marking that post which suggested it as a solution…

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