What would you want to see in a new lowrider build?

I was looking at that this morning, 70% infill is better but not as good as it can be. 3 bearings would help but once the space is taken up on the parts, kinda might as well use 4. It is hard to judge just one side so I might just build up the other side to make more informed choices. In the end, this is clearly the weakest link at this point and finding that before even using it means I am going to do my best to take care of it.

On the positive note, it should be fairly easy to change in my CAD model.

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Well I just finished some coffee, my brain is now in the game. I have two options to try before adding bearings and size. I think it was one of those ā€œduhā€ moments.

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This fixed gantry I’m wishing for sounds an awful lot like it’s a vertical moving gantry :wink:

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Did someone say VERTICAL??? Lol. I found nema 17 steppers with electric brake… oh the floor space saving possibilities… maybe someday :relieved:.
Lol. Looking forward to the new design.

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What we need is an inverted LR. That way we can just run it upside down on the ceiling. All the dust would fall to the floor, so no more issues with it building up on the machine :slight_smile: I really don’t know why no one’s thought of this sooner.

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It would definitely need a good vacuum system to hold a 4x8 sheet in place… :grin:

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And a whole new challenge to load your stock :joy:

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Man… imagine the z travel… lol

Just happened upon a vacuum device for lifting sheets of material. Brand new and set to go in dumpster (company next door is moving out). Possible vacuum table coming up!

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Clamps, but only for the material you’re cutting out…

New added benefit… Auto-binning of parts into a storage container underneath it.

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Works really well in Australia. In fact, I think they already build them that way.

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I just got my first wiggles on the new build as a complete rolling machine (no belts)…Awesome.

I am still on the fence about the second set of bearings, I believe it will make it more rigid…I am just not convinced it is needed. Or I can replace the bearing mount with something more rigid, like wood or metal, the current printed part has all the bells and whistles to make it more rigid (internal features and high density infill).

So now the bad part is it looks like even thought the footprint is overall smaller, you lose about 3" of cutting width as compared to a LR2 table. At least as it stands right now. I do have one more trick up my sleeve that could possibly cut that down significantly. I know that sucks for some of you. Hopefully the design choice I made makes it worth it.
You do gain about 2" in the Y.

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:open_umbrella::musical_note::notes::notes: parts keep falling on my head…:notes::notes:

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Just put it in the attic and cut a hole in the ceiling for chips.

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I know this is a really late piece of input and maybe it’s me not understanding how to do this properly. Maybe it’s not even necessary for most people but…
Ability to tram the router from the top?
I’ve trammed the router once to do some live edge surfacing but it seemed to work cleanly for only one surfacing job.
I’m using a Makita in the sleeve it came with and a 1/2" dovetail bit.
I had to loosen the router from the base plate by slightly unscrewing the screws from the bottom. Then I put a little shim under a corner of the sleeve on the top. Then I tighten the screw on the bottom again and lower the z to see how the adjustment worked. Raise, loosen, shim, tighten, lower…
Is there a different way to set this up so that the router could be loosened from the top? Or maybe there’s an easier way already that I’m missing and it’s not a Lowrider design constraint.
I was thinking a second plate that the router was attached to that was then attached to the base.
But maybe all of this is resolved in the new version!

Related, I have been contemplating a quick-change tool mount that is very stiff but still toolless. I haven’t begun on a design but at the abstract level I think such a thing should be possible with a 3D printed toggle mechanism (like toggle clamps or vise grips) and maybe R-clips for retention if you’re paranoid.

A quick change mount would be awesome, especially since this new one will not use the manufacturer’s quick change mounts any longer. I think I am very near being able to release a blank tool mount if you want to look at the available space on the new LR.

When I build/design them I make them square in hopes that IF you need to tram them you only have to do so by a very small amount with any sort of shim. Building in adjustability can take up a huge amount of space and could lead to lost rigidity. So for me, I am perfectly fine with shims if that means the machine is always 5% faster (as a wild example pulled out of thin air).

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Is that 5% faster on 12v or 24v??? :smiley:

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Is the sled/gantry/tool mount flat plate/what ever we call that doohickey going to largely be the same style?

For my own plasma touch mounting purposes I’ve been thinking about a second flat plate (probably skeletonized) that sits on top the bearing parts (forgot their name) to give my floating torch mount a bit more rigidity with that heavy lead swinging around in the air.