What would cause these cuts to not be round?

So each of these was a perfectly circular hole in inkscape. Why would it be such a weird shape? What should I check on?

Here’s my estlcam settings. (Ignore the 24,000 rpm.. I have the Makita router set to 2 of 10 which is what I read somewhere is good for 3/4” MDF?) This is using the single flute carbide from V1E

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More information would help. What is the pattern look like? Are the circles suppost ro be random like your picture?
When holes are not round,first thing that comes to mind is grub screws" the allen screws on the pulleys. Second is check the steps on X and Y axis’s. Mark and move each axis as long as you can. For example 100 mm. Measure with a steel rule or whatever yo have. If you ask for 100mm ,it should read 100 . If not you need to check that you have the jumpers set the same on your drivers In sime cases , the wrong pulley is on one of the axis stepper. Most common is a 16 tooth pulley. 20 tooth is less common

how does it sound when cutting ? looks like deflection to me. if you just do one 2mm pass does it look the same ?

This is the pattern in ESTLCam. All of the poorly shaped circles were cut as a basic hole.

When holes are not round,first thing that comes to mind is grub screws" the allen screws on the pulleys.

Got it! I’ll check this tomorrow morning. I did use Loctite and make sure they were quite tight, but I’ll double check.

Second is check the steps on X and Y axis’s. Mark and move each axis as long as you can. For example 100 mm. Measure with a steel rule or whatever yo have. If you ask for 100mm ,it should read 100

I’ll measure as well. This is 100% the kit from V1E, so I hope I got the right pulleys. :smiley:

It sounds like… a loud cutting thing? I’m not sure what to compare it to as I’m new to this. I’ll do a 2mm pass tomorrow and see how it looks. And I’ll record some video.

Thanks both of you!

Does the core wobble on the beam?

Not that I can tell?

Here’s a short video if it cutting just the holes at 2mm depth.

And here’s what it looked like at the end after I vacuumed it. They don’t look particularly round. :frowning:

I measured 100mm across the X and Y axis (Drilled a 2mm hole, moved it 100mm, drilled another 2mm hole) and they were perfectly 100mm in both directions.

I haven’t checked the grub screws or the pulleys yet because if they are 100mm in both directions it seems like it probably isn’t either of those?

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Crap. Now I have to go dig out my Pure Moods CD.

I have only made a few cuts on my LR3 so this is guesswork. But maybe you could do one hole only and try a 5-10 % finishing pass?

The second circle down on the left side looks good and is not as deep. The others appear to be different depths. This may be caused by a loose collet or the bit is not in the collet far enought. . It has seen before that some bits are not the size they say they are. You might measure the shank of the bit.
Next time you use the cnc use a marker and put a line on the bit so tou can see if it moved. Also note the temperture of the bit and the collet when it messes up. The bit may be warm but the collet should be cool..
If the bit is discolored the bit is toast.

With it off, wiggle the core mostly up and down. You can kinda rock it like you trying to twist it off the gantry. Your not trying to move the axis as much as looking for it not holding the rails correctly.

Looking for movement in here. Loose is better then too tight, but too loose isn’t good either.

Cutting full depth and only 2mm is very different. The video for sound check should be the original file.

I’m not a makita user so I have no idea the speed on the dial. But if you look in the owners manual you find a table that gives you the rpm at each dial location. This is the table for my kobalt as an example.

The reason this gets important is that those numbers are only part of an equation to get the right the right router speed and machine feed rate. There are lots of good calculators out there to help you understand what each adjustment does to the process. Machining is all math and everything can be calculated.

NOTE

Do NOT use my routers “application" for anything. It’s just what they are giving as examples for the router

If the bit is discolored the bit is toast.

I’m guessing it’s toast. :frowning:

Looking for movement in here. Loose is better then too tight, but too loose isn’t good either.

How loose is too loose? https://youtu.be/M8pguCMv-jc

But if you look in the owners manual you find a table that gives you the rpm at each dial location.

This is my manual’s RPM settings.

Does this calculator look reasonable? I’m not 100% sure how to read this. If my math is right, 239m/min is 3.98m/sec, which is stupid fast… Is cutting speed the speed at which the router is moving on the X/Y axis? Even if feed rate is the speed at which the router is moving on the X/Y axis, that’s still 57.8mm/second which seems fast?

Did I do something wrong in entering the numbers?

Uhhhh. I’m on my phone but it seems like you said 10k mm/min. My cad can’t draw them that fast.

I would use setting 4 on your router and 3470/60 is what…. 57 58? Set the feed for 55mm/sec

If you don’t only need 2mm cut, make that deeper. The more of the bit you use, the more heat and load gets spread out. I’m not saying go for full send with the ⅛” bit, but let it easy more than that. Most compression bits (not what you’re using) don’t switch directions until around 4ish mm.

More guesswork, it seems your core is way too lose and you are running way too fast, both the mm/s and the rpm on the router.

if it still feels sharp not too bad

that is very loose. there should not be any play if you try to wiggle the core or endmill with the motors on. i think the manual is talking about not to tighten bolts too much not to crack the core.

That’s WAY too loose!

OKay… I’m not the smartest man in the world… What do I need to tighten to get it to wobble less? I thought I knew, but I apparently do not. :sweat_smile:

Now is a good time to check the tension the top two core tension bolts.

those ones on the top. in my experience if you printed it nice and hot it is quite hard to crack :wink: