Warping and layer shift when printing MPCNC parts

Hi all. I got myself an Ender 3 PRO to print the MPCNC parts. I bought it used, not having had any 3d printing experience from before. I’ve spent a week getting it to run smoothly. I seemed to have figured out most of its quirks and personality traits, and I was eager to start producing parts. The dress reharsal (Benchy) went very well.

 

BUT ALAS! When printing the bottom corner, the whole thing seemed skewed! No straight angles or sides. I oiled the z-screw, further stabilized the bench it stands on (screwed it even more into the wall), added more adhesive (hairspray) to the bed, and reviewed my settings. I used 0.26mm layer height (0.4 nozzle), 30 mm/s speed, 100mm/s travel speed and infill as instructed.

Having tried all these minor ways of improving the print, I tried printing a new type of testing piece. It all seemed relatively fine. Then I made a little tower, to see if any shifts/warps occured - nothing. So now I’ve tried yet again - but the piece seems to warp from the board - even though I have added yet more adhesive. It seems that this piece has a shape that makes my print prone to warping. How can I prevent this? 1/4 parts glue/water? I’ve been hesitating with bothering you with this issue, but now I feel like I’m hitting my head at the wall…

 

Edit: Trying a little more headbanging against the wall. Cleaned my bed, applied new adhesive, and am now printing with a raft! Lets see how that goes. I never checked the hold of the hairspray, it it seems like its only medium hold. Guess I’ll go hairspray-shopping soon!

Try 50, 100 is insane.

 

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I used elmers purple glue stick. Was never a fan of spraying an accelerant onto and into my printer. If that still doesn’t work, blue painter’s tape. Lay it down edge to edge, no overlap! Then use a paper towel with some iso alcohol on it to rough up the top a little, not too much, basically you’re just wiping off your fingerprints on the tape.

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Okay? Didn’t realize that travel speed would matter much… is it because of the jerking? Let’s see how this one goes, if it’s still not square, I have yet another option to try out! Thanks!

I, too, have the Ender 3 Pro, but bought the kit new. The default travel speed on Cura 4.1.0 is 120mm/s for and Ender 3 type 3D printer, never touched it. I’ve obviously had no issues with it since I printed all of Ryan’s MPCNC parts last May with no problems with layer shifts.

I opted for the magnetic mat and will never go back to blue tape or other methods for bed adhesion. Rafts aren’t needed for most of Ryan’s parts - the only one I opted to raft was the tool holder for the Z gantry since it’s so tall.

Make sure the tension on the X arm belt is not too tight or too loose, I think skipping steps in the X direction could cause the layer shift shown in your picture.

Prusa's default travel speed is 180mm/s, but in my case, that's too fast for my liking, and can introduce layer shifts once you print heavier things, like the mpcnc parts. I use 80 on my prusa and ender 3 units.

 

How about bed temp? It’s not really needed for PLA, but I find it helps for warping like you have.

Thanks for all the helpful input! Unfortunately, I don’t follow Ryans rule of life - to exclude only one variable at a time… the print on the raft turned out perfect! (apart from the minor cosmetical traces of the raft)

I keep my bed at 60c, just to be sure.

I tried again with a new kind of hairspray and a lower travel speed. I think the hairspray was absolutely terrible for this use, the print losened only after 5 mm.

So now I’m back to using the raft, until I have found a better type of hairspray or got myself the right kind of glue stick.

I tried the skewed print on the rail, and it actually fitted well enough. But I’ll not use it, I think that the mechanical stress can break it too easily. The warped piece is the lowest, and the one printed on the raft is on top.[attachment file=104134]

EDIT: BTW - does the forum automatically rotate all images from vertical to horizontal??