Have you looked at the CYD pendant? You will have more control during jogging than the M5. You can go from 100mm increments down to 0.01mm increments. The pulse encoder is very smooth and has fine clicks when turning the dial.
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You once said you don’t need auto squaring or a great table and here we are. 
Whenever I have been using my MPCNC with Fluid I always wished I had a pendant because I was using it at school with my tiny phone display.
Also, the pendant can be used by multiple users who don’t have a phone etc available and does not need an explanation for users how to connect etc.
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Second this. Had both and CYD and encoder is my preference, it’s like the encoder has higher resolution or finer detents and is easier to spin.
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Here I go again! Remember my total CNC time would be barely multiple tens of hours. Therefore take this for what it’s worth, as the ramblings of an opinionated newbie! 
My total experience has been with a “pendant” - OK it was called a Rambo Graphic controller (or something), and I like the interface and it was/is a bit clumsy menu wise but it’s simple and has a bit of a tactile feel about it with it’s click dial.
I have watched curiously and confused as the jackpot arrived and I didn’t understand much (any) of the conversation, but it was wireless and therefore cool and I wanted one.
Then people started adding wires to it and these things called “pendants” which seemed like fancy versions of my graphic controller and I wondered what was happening.
Now as someone inexpert and relying on collective advice, I am quite confused - the yellow brick road is looking like a construction site. I could take the advice of any one person on this thread and build a functioning control device, but what is best for me?
In my ignorance, my conclusion is that I want a working graphic interface, but I am not ready to let go of a physical dial for reasons others have outlined.
Having thought a lot about this, and I think this is related - whether wired or not, I still question whether having the board mounted on a moving component is the right thing to do, it adds a certain amount of “untidiness” to the control wiring, just something else to catch somewhere.
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For me the starter pack Bart sells on his tindie store is that it motivates me, maybe @vicious1 will get a kit for the cyd version i dont know
I do commercial stuff with my cncs 3 of them are hobby machines, they can do the same things but slower (who cares) all my machines paid themselves in the first weeks of use plus a lot of benefits. I did print 2 lr4 and had all the hardware but i decided to keep one LR4 in a box because im running one so hard i felt i needed the parts (wrong, i did not) now want to rebuild it with bigger tubes and re-test/pursuit one of the original goals (make the lr4 idex for a full sheet)
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if someone could come up with a way for me to use an xbox controller via bluetooth, I would be as happy as a bug snuggled up in a rug, but I know that will not happen.
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I did use a joystick with ugs once, it was nice, but I did not like having a pc to do the joystick.
I believe you can have a wireless keyboard attached to webui3 via usb if using a table thats the closest you can get
Pretty sure that is no big deal? Just map the buttons when it is connected.
The screen device is connected via wifi to the jackpot the joystick is connect via bluetooth to the screen device.
Where is all this talk of Bluetooth coming from? The ESP-32 only has one radio and it can do either WiFi or Bluetooth, but not both. Once you go to a slave IO setup, you’re back to something that’s effectively equivalent to an Airedale or a pendant interface.
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And the joystic drift messing your movements lol
You can’t jog while a job is running.
Yes but the fine movement looking to zero your jobs (not an issue for me i mostly cut full sheets and use home origin
I have not connect a joystick in a long time but I think only games map a joystick that tight. A larger dead zone doesn’t usually matter for lesser use cases.
Yes, let keep off topic outside. Now i have te itch! Cyd pendant, 3 buttons and the handwheel right? Screen is 2.8" .
Wold you make a kit? (My intent is to use it with a 6pack board)
Would someone write a bom list with links for the pendant (preferably amazon or AliExpress but one you can get everything in a single app)
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I got everything I needed from the wiki
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Just below what you marked in red. That socket is what I used. Yes I had to solder the pins socket to the board. There might be one out there that has the right orientation already soldered but I didn’t look for one.
You can get the other side separate from the M5 dial kit. He has a link to it on elecrow since his tindle store is closed right now.
LOL, what do you mean “All the talk” I simply mentioned it, geesh, wow, you want me to delete it, I will, it is no biggy.
Not you me.
I have been pushing Bluetooth devices, I was confident they worked. I am looking for a neighbor to loan me a xbox controller so I can give it a shot.
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