LR3 Side-mounted Y belt

One of the only gripes I have with the LR3 design is the front Y belt that always gets in the way

This mod allows you to install the front Y belt on the side of your table
This way you can access the whole worktop either from the front or the side, plus you get a nice and clean benchtop by just parking the LR3 to one side (no need to remove belts)

Link to the mod on Printables
https://www.printables.com/fr/model/532803-lowrider-3-cnc-side-mounted-y-belt

The new printed parts are colored in yellow in the picture:

  • [1x] Y extension plate (milled or printed)
  • [4x] Y extension plate spacer (* see notes bellow)
  • [1x] Side mounted Y Tension Base
  • [1x] Side mounted Front Y Belt Base

Side view:

Top view:

Front view:

Notes about plate thickness
The design is heavily dependent on the plates thickness, and he spacers need to be adjusted depending on:

  • The thickness of the YZ plate
  • The thickness of the Y extension plate
  • The distance you want to leave between the bearings and the side of the table

The design is parametric, so this can easily be adjusted, or you’ll need to calulate the spacer’s size depending on your setup.

Here are a few samples:

“Standard” configuration

“Loose” configuration - Extra margin between the roller and table border / Extra-low Y belt


Note: probably not a good idea though :wink:

“Tight” configuration

This mod is heavily inspired by Doug’s initial version, but doesn’t need unistruts, and uses the original Y drive mount and endstop
If you still want to use a unistrut/superstrut and hide the belt under the table, it’s a simple matter of shortening the spacers

“Belt directly under roller” configuration

Feel free to use this topic to discuss the mod and it’s potential updates you’d like to see :slight_smile

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A few detailed pictures of the prototype
For this prototype, the plate and spacers are directly from Doug’s version of the mod, the blocks are my own design

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Awesome mod(s)!!!

One question, for the “directly under the bearings” version I noticed that you have a section of C channel on the side of the table, whereas none of the other versions have that. Is it needed for that version , or is it just an artifact?

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Very cool! Interesting mod, curious to see how your build turns out.

With this belt orientation, wondering if there’s an opportunity to reduce belt slack… Have you considered gluing/adhering an extra belt to the table with the teeth meshing with the existing belt? Seen a couple of LR3/MPCNC build topics that use extra adhered belts, have no idea what performance benefits/difference they observed. With or without extra belt, guessing the table still needs to be precisely dimensioned/cut to avoid unwanted friction/binding as LR3 moves along Y axis.

Really like the 3D render images, were they created using Fusion 360 or something else?

Good luck!

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That’s just for illustration purposes, really.
The installation is pretty flexible actually, you can use an unistrut, a C channel, a “L corner”, or just have your worktop simply overhang and bolt the blocks to the frame
The only constraint is to get the spacers size right for your setup

I’ve seen a mod doing that, but horizontaly (pretty neat mod btw!)
I guess you could double the belt’s length and make a kind of “loop” to get the teeth to face one another, so that it creates a similar “rack and pinion” system
The problem though, is that there’s nothing pressing the Y drive against the side of the table (on the other mod, gravity does that…), and constraining it may hinder the flexibility that’s built-in with the single rail…

EDIT: Found the mod: Modified motion control on Y-axis

Just the default F360 rendering yes

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I can’t see it clearly on the images, but are you using a sensor to home?

If so I would like to suggest you use a solid belt holder + table mount so it’s one piece instead of 2 parts. On my LR3 the belt tension pulled out the belt holder. It created a difference between both sides and each time I homed there was a small difference too, so using one of the mods found on thingiverse fixed that for me.

Updated the first post with links to the files on Printables

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I have the same problem with my endstop blocks bending and tering appart from the support
This has been on the bucket list, along with homing Y in the negative direction…
I guess I can tackle both at the same time…

I just wanted to minimize the number of parts I need to redesign for the first version, hence re-using the y drive motor mount, endstops and so on…
That’s more of a v0 than a v1 in fact… just wanted to get it working quickly…

I’m currently working on a v1, with re-designed motor mount and probably re-designed belt blocks…

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New plan… much simpler :slight_smile:

This will need 2 additional idlers for the new belt path, but that should be the only addition…

Simpler to adjust too, only three sliders…

Example of an extreme case (60mm between the belt and YZ plate)


As usual, making the design truly parametric will take a bit of trials and errors, that’s just a first version to try out…

I don’t know if this will be stiff enough though…
Test-printing this while I’m going to bed…

EDIT:
mmmmh looking at the screenshots and the shape the belt is forming, I just hope there’s no “nuditity filter” on the forum :scream: Sorry about that :face_with_peeking_eye:

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Also made a prototype just before this one
Keeping the additional side plate, but re-disgning the motor mount
The new Y drive had the motor on one side of the plate, and the idlers on the other…

Should work, but not a huge difference in spacer’s length
Moreover, you still need to adjust them and all that fuss…so that’s a no-go…

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Totally makes sense, good approach!

Re: the editable parameters- might it be easier to use if you referenced the distance from table edge to outer face of YZ plate, rather than from YZ drive to inner face and second parameter of plate thickness? Also parameter Y drive Z drop is a bit confusing. Perhaps using parameter distance of Y belt below table surface.

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First prototype didn’t work too well…

I forgot there need to be a gap between the plate and side of the table, you cannot just go straight down -_-
Plus the complicated belt routing does not serve any real purpose…
Just goes to prove that you really need a good night sleep before hitting the print button :man_facepalming:

So… here we go with a new try… not pretty, but it keeps the simple “one piece” approach

I also designed another version with the motor turned 90° and an horizontal belt, but f360 crashed and did not recover it -_-

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V1 prototype fresh off the printer…


Note: there’s no spot to mount the endstop I know, this has already been fixed but I need to re-print and I’m waiting to include all the other small fixes

How cool is that? :smiley:

Now I just need to tidy up a few things, pockets that need to become nut traps mainly…

You can see on the video that the rollers are very close (too close…) to the edge of the table, and the belt is not parrallel to the table because the new Y drive is too far away
This will all be fixed by backing the y rail a little (and that was part of why I did this new version)

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Not sure how I missed this thread! Nice work!! :+1:

This is awesome! A suggestion/request - when you remix can you make it so that the endstop switch could be mounted on either side? I’m planning to swap X and Y axis, and rather than rotate the gantry 180 degrees, I was looking for a way to have the switches on the left of the YZ plate rather than the right. This would solve 50% of my challenge.

Don’t jump on it just yet
I already have the v2 installed and it’s been working great for the past month or so :slight_smile:
It’s easier to install, and also, I mounted the switch on the back so that my machine homes at Y max :slight_smile:

Will try to publish this soon

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No concerns there - I’m only about 10% of the way through printing the PLA parts (30 hours down, 270 hours to go). At only one or two parts per day, it will take a while.

Then I need to assemble a smaller standard build (37" rails) to work out all of the bugs and get a feel for using CAM to cut aluminum XZ and YZ plates and the struts. Only after that is done will I try various mods (including both the side mount belt and the X-Y swap). So still some time away.

But I am totally looking forward to your final version! Thanks for all of the work that you are putting into this, and thanks for sharing!

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Be sure to check out my CAM info for cutting aluminum. Its worked extremely well for 1/4"

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Has this been published yet? Very much looking forward to trying it out.