The Red Machine

I am currently building a ~1x1m LRv4 and wanted to share my progress here. Some progress has already been made, so this first, longer post will summarize what has happened up until I drew my first crown with the machine this evening.

Intro

I am 35 years old with a background in IT and 3D printing, but I have no prior CNC experience and am based in Bavaria, Germany.

The machine has a square working area of 1.05 x 1.05m, is controlled by a Jackpot3 board, and is built primarily for processing 1x1m sheets of birch multiplex. The title of this thread is inspired by @Jason_Toops’s “Green Machine”.

While I initially considered to go with an expensive spindle from AMB or similar from the start, I ended up choosing a very €75 six-speed router from Parkside (a brand of the European supermarket chain Lidl). The reason is simple: I am a CNC beginner and this router let’s me test the limits of the machine more freely while also massively reducing the complexity of the build. I’ve already destroyed a 2€ Stabilo pen while testing :smiley: You might ask, “Why not the default Makita?” Paying €40 for the required adapter/collet for a €140 router was a ratio I just couldn’t justify.

Sourcing

Shipping from the U.S. to Germany was unfortunately too expensive compared to the (very reasonable) prices of the items in the V1E shop. Therefore, I opted for self-sourcing, which took me about two evenings. My general strategy was to save money on non-critical parts but buy quality where it mattered (e.g., power supply, bearings). Including the router and table, I spent approximately €585.

As promised in another thread, here are the exact components I ordered for the build with links:

List of Materials
Quantity Bought Description Total Price Paid in EUR with Shipping Link / Source
1 set XZ Plates 42 € Aluminium XZ Platten – HaWiWe
1 Router 75 € Multifräse »PPMF 710 A1 «, mit Kanten-, Ober- und Wink…
1 Bit Adapter 6mm to 3,175mm 5 € 6 mm to 3.175 mm accuracy adapter reducing sleeve engraving bit CNC milling tool adapter for collet : Amazon.de: DIY & Tools
1 V bit 5 € HAMPTON 1pc 3,175mm Schaft V Form Spitze Carving Cutter 20/30/45/60 Grad Fräser Hartmetall Router Bit PCB 3D Gravur Bit - AliExpress 1420
1 set of 10 Single Flute End Mill 8 € XCAN Fräser, Einzelflöte, Schaftfräser, 10 Stück, 1/8 Zoll, 3,175 mm Schaft, Hartmetall-Spiralfräser für Holzbearbeitung, CNC-Fräser - AliExpress 1420
1 Touch Plate 4 € Z-Achsen fräser Fräsen 35mm Null-Check-Touch-Platten einstellung Messer blocks onden sensor CNC-Gravier maschine CNC-Werkzeuge - AliExpress 202216001
3x1kg PLA Filament for 3D Printed Parts 33 € Temu
6m Precision Rails 30mm OD 28 € Local Steel Shop
1 Fan for Control Box 4 € WINSINN 5015 50mm Lüfter 5V 12V 24V, 3D-Drucker Mikro gebläse Hydraulik/Doppel kugellager, bürstenlose Kühlung 50x15mm 2-polig - AliExpress 7
1 Jackpot 3 Control Board 76 € https://www.elecrow.com/jackpot3-cnc-controller.html
5 Steppers, Nema17 52 € Amazon.de
3 Stepper Wire Extenders 0 € Had this already
3 Pulleys 16T 10mm 12 € Amazon.de
6 Idlers Smooth 20T 15 € Amazon.de
10m Belt GT2 10mm 7 € Offenen Zahnriemen 5m/10m//20m lot GT2-6mm/10mm GT2 Gürtel Gummi Aramid faser Schneiden 3D Drucker Teile CNC Laser maschine Gravur - AliExpress 7
5 Endstops 8 € Amazon.de
14 608-2RS Bearings 28 € Kugellager 608 2RS / ZZ SKF kaufen | Express-Versand | GAP Kugellager Online Shop
2 T8 Leadscrew & Nut 5 € 2PCS MGN9H MGN9C MGN12H MGN12C MGN15H MGN15C 15mm + 2 stücke linearführung 100mm bis 1000mm linearführung 3D drucker DIY anpassung - AliExpress 13
2 Coupler 4 € 3D drucker teil Schrittmotor 5x5x25mm 5X8x25mm Flexible Koppler Welle Kupplungen Motor - AliExpress 7
4 Linear rails MGN 28 € 3D Drucker CNC THSL-500-8D Länge 100/150/200/250/300/400/500mm T-typ Stepper Motor Trapez Blei Schraube 8MM Gewinde T8 - AliExpress 7
1 Power Supply 14 € Amazon.de
1 Thread locker 7 € Amazon.de
1 Lube 9 € Amazon.de
1 Vac Hose 0 € Yet to come
set, see V1E documentation Screws (except M8x40) 13 € https://nindejin.aliexpress.com/store/5053209?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.2.21ef1802ERxRVA
14 Screws M8x40 8 € Local Hardware Store
1 Rust Protection for Rails 14 € Amazon.de
3 Table: Particle Boards and Edge Banding 60 € Local Hardware Store
1 set of 4 Table: Levelling Casters 24 € Amazon.de
1 Micro SD Card 0 € Had this already

Table

I built a simple table using materials I already had on hand (leftover profiles from storage racks and roof battens), plus three 19mm particle boards from the local hardware store. I chose the red laminated boards because they were actually the cheapest option (the store wanted to get rid of the color).

For the feet, I chose these leveling casters and connected them with a custom 3D-printed adapter. I wouldn’t necessarily buy these specific casters again—the feet are hard plastic rather than the rubber I had hoped for—but they do work.

One thing to note is that the CNC does not sit on the top of the table, but on the middle level because the top working surface (which sits loosely on top and can be lifted by hand) is needed much more often than the CNC itself.

Building

All in all, the assembly was great fun. What took some time was figuring out the required wire lengths, slotting some of the wires through the YZ plates, and some of the M8 screws/nuts were difficult to screw together all the way due to the hole sizes.

Suggestion for improving the instructions: It would be helpful to include rough estimates for the endstop wire lengths relative to the axes’ lengths.

Software

I work a lot with Fusion360 for 3D printing, but I wanted to stay on the supported path, so I chose Estlcam to start my CNC journey. Since I am on a Mac, emulation was required, but it works surprisingly well.

For anyone interested, and without any support, here is how I got the most recent version of Estcam (v12, 64bit) running on an M2 Macbook:

Instructions
  1. Install homebrew
  2. Run the following commands in the Terminal one after another
  brew install --cask --no-quarantine gcenx/wine/wine-crossover
  brew install winetricks
  export WINEPREFIX=~/.estlcam_wine
  wine64 winecfg 
  winetricks dotnet48 corefonts gdiplus
  1. A window will pop up. Just click OK.
  2. Downlaod the newest estlcam installer to your “Downloads” folder
  3. wine64 ~/Downloads/Estlcam_64_12.exe
  4. Open the Script Editor, paste the following, replace XXX with your username and save in the “Applications” folder as type “Application”:
    do shell script "export WINEPREFIX=/Users/david/.estlcam_wine; /opt/homebrew/bin/wine64 '/Users/XXX/.estlcam_wine/drive_c/Program Files (x86)/Estlcam12/Estlcam12_CAM.exe' > /dev/null 2>&1 &"
  5. Open Estcam from the Applications folder like any other app.

Impressions

Thanks

Lastly, a big thanks to this great community for all the help, ideas and suggestions so far - it’s great to be part of it!

Next Steps

  • Understanding gcode moves (especially Z moves, as these seem most dangerous to me)
  • Cutting the strut plates and cleaning up the wiring
  • Building the FliudDial (again, as I was nearly finished when I fried the dial’s ESP while trying to figure out why the left button was not working, now waiting for another shipment from China)
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After half a day of getting to know the machine, 5mm fiberboard strut plates are now cut :slight_smile:

I used this 4$ Down Cut Router Bit 1/8 Shank 2 Flute bit with 1mm depth of cut, 20mm/s feedrate, 3mm/s plunge feedrate and a plunge angle of 30°. Getting there took a few tries to figure out feedrate, rpm, depth of cut, required collet tightness, … - good thing I had purchased a spare board for this :smiley:

Test cuts came out 2mm too long, so I just “cheated” and regenerated a 2mm shorter strut plate svg which came out spot on. Seems I still need to do some additional calibration after installing the strut plates.

What I did not consider initially was that my MDF spoil board is harder than the fiberboard I am cutting. After the bit tip reached the MDF, the fiberboard settings were too slow and the machine slid off the planned path. What’s common to address this - use the settings for the hardest material (workpiece or spoil board) for everything as I did?

With more power/rpm I was able to get the strut plates cut. However, at the beginning of the last precautionary 1mm cut path downwards (to safely clear all of the workpiece), the bit again deviated from its path - luckily away from the workpiece, which was already finished by then. Any ideas on what could have caused this and how to resolve it?

Video of an earlier, similar slide with the wrong settings:

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What a great post!
We’ll all be watching with interest as you complete your build and start using your new machine.

Nice workaround, but be sure you go back and address the root cause.

Double check that your core is not wobbly on the beam.

The video isn’t loading for me- what speeds are you using for your cut? Are you using a finishing pass?