I think is is so you can tell if something has been removed or more likely you can delete your own posts and if it renumbered deleted the number any link to other post after it would get hosed
I was looking at 5’ lengths of 3/4" as that is what I can get in my car. I purchased 7 of them thinking a 4’ x 4’ at first until I was told that the EMT would not be rigid enough for this. for that big i would need SS or DOM. I planned to cut down to 2’x2’. I was ok with that as while I would have a couple extra pieces, that was on me.
to be crystal clear during all this I made a huge mistake (which is why you should always check your work and not post when tired), I was looking for alternatives to switch to. The earlier amounts I referred to were wrong, i had gotten on aluminum tubing instead of EMT which was $5.99 vs $4.18. Comparing to SS 1" at $8.99 instead of 1" EMT.
This makes much more sense with Tim W saying it was a $12 difference (if buying new). However i will still counter that it was always said that SS/DOM was preferred over EMT so the reasoning still stands and at a much higher cost difference
I admit, I am no engineer. You tell me what I need and I trust you. Now Jeffeb3 is saying that 1" EMT would be more rigid than SS/DOM when i was told 3/4" wouldn’t be. then why would 3/4 have ever been an option then?
When i look at Menards.com, for 1" EMT, the shortest length I can get is 10’ at $10.39 a stick. $41.56 That will not fit in my car and I will have to cut onsite.
As far as precutting, then the calculator shouldn’t be trusted is what you are telling me? I will have to cut it at the store in order to make it fit.
I am not trying to be unreasonable, but I really don’t want to have to spend more on something that should really be a lot easier than this is making out to be.
As far as “what if you hadn’t already bought what you did…”
If it had been said that the 1" EMT would be an option and just as good as SS/DOM I would go with it and been done. My understanding was that it would not have been rigid enough. I come from the school of thought either you sacrifice quality and plan for regular replacements or you buy the best you can upfront so it will last longer. Being new to this and not even sure I could make it work or have it do what I wanted, i was willing to spend the lesser amount. If it failed, i wasn’t in for much.
See Jeff’s response to me above.
I think he’s saying that 3/4 inch emt isn’t IN the primo calculator, and the footprint is different between burly and primo so there is no reliable calculator for a 3/4 inch primo. But I could be wrong.
I think that’s what Ryan is working on now?
Boy oh boy do I understand this!
Oh boy. Did i do this?
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I’m in favor of 1" EMT.
And one more thing I’ll offer as a reminder: if you have gone and paid to have gold-plated 3/4" EMT conduit, you can still build Burly!
Primo is stiffer, so if the upgrade to Primo matters (besides being new and shiny), then I would think you shouldn’t be attached to 3/4" EMT. If you are extremely price conscious or attached to 3/4" EMT, then Burly is fine. 6mm belts are cheaper than 10mm belts, #6 bolts and nuts are cheaper than M5, and bearings are cheaper than idlers.
My opinion, Primo should just move on.
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These were all in reply to Ryan FYI… lol
“I think he’s saying that 3/4 inch emt isn’t IN the primo calculator, and the footprint is different between burly and primo so there is no reliable calculator for a 3/4 inch primo. But I could be wrong.”
I guess I didn’t even considered that since there is no material size difference choices now between the two currently released sizes or even when you choose the burly option instead of Primo.
You may have been the catalyst to an already burning thought, but none of this is your fault and I do not blame Ryan either. sometimes…you just have to make an unpopular change for the better.
@jaimek You can still build a burly but with a better option (unless you already started) what would be the point when it was said 3/4" would be an option? That is why i held off (plus the kits were sold out and buying on your own can get expensive fast)
I am for 1”, I thought originally you were scrapping 23.5 with no replacement in mind. I will use my already purchased conduit for pipe clamps or something
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A lot of complaining over what is essentially a free, open-source project coupled with people jumping the gun.
I have like 4 more parts to print for 1OD SS/DOM. If 1ID conduit is stiffer, I’m very tempted to just reprint.
In reality, you want the project to be the best it can be. If 1" conduit is better, 3/4" shouldn’t even be a thought. Greater good and all that…
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I just try to be helpful where I can. I’m pretty good at math, but engineering ain’t my wheelhouse so most of these conversations gain nothing from my input.
I’m sure plenty of people would take them off your hands to keep you from losing $$, especially that core.
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You did 
thank you
Another vote for 1" conduit.
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If it will help anyone build a burly – I will donate my “left over” hardware from my ¾" emt burly. Those parts will probably just sit in my garage until the contents of my gargage cave in around me. I have already put the printed parts up for anyone that will cover shipping costs. I’m not sure what additional hardware parts would be necessary to complete a build but its a start…
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yes, we (meaning I) jumped the gun by buying parts that we (again I) thought were going to be compatible (note, it seems to only be me and that is fine, this is my complaint only and no one elses…the good of the many out weight the good of the one and all that jazz). I am resigned to the fact I am just out and will have to start over. In this event I may just reevaluate and build a lowrider instead if I can justify the room it takes up (doubtful).
however, you started on the basis of here are the designed parts ready to go now start, you didn’t purchase parts for and then wait for a design that was listed as one of the three that were going to be made. I can see your complaint that “gee, had I know that would work better I would have waited, but this will still work just as good” vs “gee I bought parts and waited for a design that will never come.”
At any rate since it is just me, i say drop it and carry on with whatever makes your life easier. i can try to return what I have and hope for the best.
I wasn’t singling you out. I didn’t even reply to your post. It looks like there are a few folks that already grabbed the 3/4" conduit.
Yes, I see your distinction, but what it comes down to is buying parts for a project that didn’t exist, yet. I haven’t bought rails because printing takes a lot longer than buying rails, and from the very beginning Ryan was clear that things may change even down to individual parts as a result of beta testing.
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Smaller belt sizes still work, just not recommended. I think you still need the larger idlers, but those are included in the upgrade kit.
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This is just making sure I do the right thing.
I work in my own little bubble and I 100% rely on you all to help me stay on course. None of this should be intended to be mean. Sarcasm and humor rarely come through as intended and any actual feedback usually seems harsher than intended. I am extremely guilty of this. If you didn’t know I frequently ask others to look over my written words to see if they come across the right way, and during this thread this morning I privately messaged 3 different people to be sure I was not over critical or harsh.
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For every reply I post, no matter the tone, I have hit “Cancel Post” at least a dozen times…
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My apologizies, i was the only one “complaining” so I took it you mainly meant me.
100% correct. I took that to mean a redesign of a part and I knew we wouldn’t get parts released until after beta. Not that a whole size would be eliminated. I do not recall when i actually bought the conduit if it was before the release of the 25.4mm or after. I believe it was before as it was always stated that it would come in the three current sizes. I do not recall any statements or hints that the sizes themselves would be changed.
I guess I must have missed the last stage where it says that “either” the 23.5mm (3/4″ EMT) or 29.5mm (1″ EMT) version (as I do not recall the 29.5MM being listed to begin with).
Well then, aren’t WE awful lucky!!!
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