Kelly the Carver's Long Awaited ZenXY build threat

I’ll start by saying that since this last crossed my mind late in 2018 our lovely dining table has seen it’s share of memories made. The “WE WANT DESSERT!” chant while stabbing the table with the backs of our forks (yes - the whole family was in on the chant, not just the six and nine year olds), the strip right down the (perfectly measured) middle of the table that the painter’s tape peeled off after “the joke was over, she gets it…her elbows are always on ‘my’ side of the table”, the curious little holes where I was sure I’d be able to use my Jedi senses to know when I was through what I was drilling through and surely I wouldn’t hit the table, the splotches of spilled paint, stains from the legit pysanky dyes and the shiny bumps of “we can make resin jewelery without laying down paper”…So many memories made and a life well lived.

My wife, not long ago said “wouldn’t it be nice to get a new table someday soon”? to which I recounted all the above memories in defense of the table and hoping it would add to the “we should keep it a while longer” case I was going to be making. So, this coupled with my reconnection to the V1 world with the lowrider and naturally thoughts turned to the ZenXY again. (Am I the only one that pronounces it rather than spelling it out? Zenxy - like Banksy but Zenxy.)

The printer is running right now and the controller has been ordered. It said 8-10 days but I’ll not hold my breath on that one. If you care to review the Advice thread linked above feel free but I’ll summarize it here.

  • Large ‘canvas’ - 58" X 30"
  • Functional dinner table so the glass must be up to the task of holding steaming pots of mashed potatoes and giant roast beasts
  • Would like to continue exploring the possibility of middle support from the top through the base material
  • Will explore the possibility of breaking the canvas into two side by side drawings and possibly quadrants if side by side works out

Back in 2018 there was discussion about leaving a middle rib in the setup with one, two or three “mouseholes” to pass the ball from one side to the other. This would still be great but understandably a challenge. Current thinking has me wondering if I can’t leave enough of a “rail” - like an inverted “T” in the middle of the table to both hold the glass edge but then also give me something to run a machine screw (or two) through to the bottom to help support the span. The added bonus is that I may be able to find a cheaper source for glass than I had in 2018 where I was quoted about $300 for the piece I’d need. @SupraGuy mentioned to me how he found his glass through unconventional means and it was great (Ikea shelf I think? Or something like that.)

Anyway, that would make each piece of glass 30" X 23" give or take. In fact I’m open to being flexible on the size if it means an easier/cheaper source for the glass which will ultimately make it much more probable that these new 3d prints don’t suffer the same fate as the last ones will. A side bonus to the smaller pieces of glass of course is also that they should be much stronger while possibly thinner? I’ll need to figure out how to avoid the spot(s) where the support drops down. And I guess I’ll need to make sure the ball has enough clearance to make it under this rail. It means I’ll have to prep the “holes” from the top and then flip the table to remove enough from the bottom of the rail section for the required clearance.

Now that I think-type it occurs to me that it doesn’t matter how I poke holes through the table. I could do it any number of ways and all would be pretty cool. If the “support rail” thing works (and I’m speaking to the top of the table and the glass support only at this particular moment) then I could have all kinds of fun with four pieces, with six, seven, eight rectangular pieces etc (see doodles in following post).

This though does not cover the concern as shared by @barry99705 in the Advice thread where his 36" X 48" build showed signs of sagging in the middle using 1/8" hardboard for the base. So I refer back to the thought of some method of supporting the bottom from the top.

How much of a mess will this support plan make as far as the little big marble is concerned? Has the software evolved any since 2018 such that we could program the ball to run a labyrinth if we needed to in order to “get to the other side”?

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As slow as 3d printing can be we can all take comfort in the knowledge that Elecrow shipping is slower. Hahaha

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Came awful close on a couple glass options today (Facebook marketplace) but each one was off by a few inches in either one direction or the other. But it shows promise regardless.

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From the MPCNC thread:

Broached the topic of the ZenXY last night with the wife and she “wants to see what this is going to look like…I gets to have a say too you know”. And I was grumpy from a hard long day Saturday so I kept my mouth shut like a smart husband and will find all the nicest photos I can to show her.

Anyone have any photos of their tables that will woo my wife?

I still haven’t built mine. But once my wife saw @vicious1 dining room table that was the only option she was good with LOL

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One of my corners, the black started to pull back…not happy. That is not an easy fix.

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Nice! Hope she gets it!

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Eventually. Its on the list. But far down the list lol. Need the funds to build the table I want to build

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Mine isn’t very pretty but I didn’t need any permission to do it.

Looking forward to seeing your build though!

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If these aren’t convincing, it needs to go into the shop.

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Hahaha! And then we’ll eat dinner in the shop every night.

I’ll make my case tomorrow :wink:

I should add, it’s not as much of a Hail Mary as we may fear. Not six months ago she “discovered” infinity tables and wanted me to build one so bad. I told her “that’s so 70’s but I’ll think about it” (truthfully thinking instead about the reactive LED table I’ve been jonesing to build almost as long as I’ve been playing with Christmas lights).

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I have a feeling someone just saw ZenXY for the first time and loved what she saw…I’m not one to count my steel marbles until the hole is cut but I think I’ve been given consent to proceed in my search for the piece of glass?

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Easier to seek forgiveness than permission :wink:

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Perhaps not for cutting a large hole in the dining table…

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I bought my zenxy glass from fabglassandmirror.com - if you go with an off the shelf size they are quite reasonable, and even the custom cuts aren’t too bad.

Looks like I got the “Rectangle Glass 24X48 Inch 1/4" Thick Flat Edge Tempered Eased Corners” for $117.99 plus $10.87 shipping to NY.

You probably want to check the math for strength vs thickness for whatever size you need, and I definitely recommend tempered for a table. The glass I really wanted is the “low-iron” glass. It doesn’t have the greenish tint you usually see - I’ve got a bathroom mirror made out of it and the difference is crazy, you do a double take every time you look in it because it seems so much more lifelike somehow. Then I figured I was putting cheap leds underneath anyway so why was I caring about the color/clarity, but in a perfect world I’d love to see the difference side by side. :slight_smile:

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