Give me all your advice for rigidity please

Hello everyone, it’s been about 1 year since I had to disassemble my MPCNC 525 because of a change in appartments. Since then all the parts have been lying in a box gathering dust.

This fall I’ll have some spare time and I thought about rebuilding it as a Primo, and with a smaller workspace. Around 320x220mm would result in a footprint that will just barely fit in the last open spot in my workshop.
Since I’ll use it for building combat robot parts it will mostly be used for HDPE, some aluminum and maybe eventually some steel.

Please give me all your advice on building this machine as rigid as possible. The updated Primo parts and the small size should already help a lot, and I’m also planning on using a CF PETG filament. Is there anything else I could/should do?

Also, do I have to get any new hardware or can I reuse all the parts from my 525?

-Raphael

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Sounds like a fun project. The primo should be very rigid at that size. Nothing is perfect, so you’ll still need to learn CAM. But it should be a great tool for you. Keep the Z to a reasonable height.

There are some differences in hardware. I don’t know off the top of my head. But most of the fasteners changed to M5 and the M8s have different lengths. There was a conversion kit in the shop at some point. But that was a while ago.

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I’ll keep Z to the minimum of 81mm.

Then I’ll have to sort out the hardware I already have and order the rest :slight_smile:
If I remember correctly, the belts used to be 5mm wide, now they are 10mm?

I know filling the tubes with vibration dampening material comes up from time to time in this forum, has anyone tried PU construction foam? It’s supposed to dampen vibrations while also being lightweight.

Just make sure you have dimensionally accurate parts and you don’t gorilla tighten the trucks and core bearing mounts. I have found on my Primo, that the z axis lead screw can be a source of slop in movement if worn. If you fail to print proper infill or don’t do the 3-4 perimeters on the printed truck or core, you can crack them during use and those cracks will be a point of flex and subsequent loss of rigidity. Also be aware that extreme temperature swings where the primo is located may contribute to printed part failure as well. Keep the bearing tubes clear of debris, tighten your grub screws, space off your pulleys… all this wisdom is painfully discovered over the last year. I just reprinted and reinstall the trucks and core on my primo and it works well. I cut a lot of foam and the foam shavings can be charged and like to cling to the tubes. This is bad news over time. Hopefully with your aluminum and HDPE cuts, you won’t have much issue with that.

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Well, I suggest you start by talking to your doctor…

Wait, wrong forum again?

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Just finished sorting out the leftover 525 hardware.
I have enough steel pipe and M8 locknuts and the motors, electronics etc. are all usable.
The bearings all have too much play in them, I’ll have to get new ones, and the bolts are also all different sizes than what is needed for the Primo.

Don’t sleep on the lowrider at a small size. I got to work with a local builder on his 1x2 LR3 amd it outperformed my similar-sized primo. The LR4 is also looking pretty sharp.

I never considered the lowrider for a small build, thanks, I’ll look into it :smiley:

Been a while since I posted these…

The LR is slightly more expensive because of the linear rails and aluminum plates (if you go that direction), and it’s slightly more complex to build because you have to partially assemble it to cut pieces for the final assembly, which requires a disassembly.

But it has much better workspace access, integrated dust collection, and is more rigid near the spoilboard, which is what you’ll want if you’re going to occasionally cut plate aluminum and steel.

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