G.O.A.T holder for Pen / Drag Knife / Drag Bit (e.g. RDZ Engraver) for LowRider 4

Nice to see more LR4 mods and add-ons appearing on Printables ( https://www.printables.com/search/models?q=lowrider+4&ordering=latest ).

Found a V1E Pen Mount/Holder at https://www.printables.com/model/1334642-pen-mount-for-the-lowrider-4-cnc, that looks great for first Crown, and many other projects/situations.

Am still curious though, what the more fussy pants folks here like myself are using, or have created, and possibly not shared already?

A variety of Pen Holders are available for LowRider 3:

Am wanting similarly precise (ideally hologram grade… :slight_smile: ) holder for LR4, so, figured I’d ask here before burning time creating/remixing one? Cheers!

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Hey @vicious1 @jeffeb3, are you able to share what Pen and Pen holder was working for you at Open Sauce?

I don’t see the holder pictured below in https://www.printables.com/model/1034840-lowrider-4-cnc/files, or, https://docs.v1e.com/lowrider/#printed-parts. Doc’s Initial Squaring step currently shows a neat no mount solution that just uses zip ties through router mounts. Nice, and good enough for first crown.

Maybe you’re using LR3 Fancy Pen holder at https://www.printables.com/model/662275-lowrider-3-fancy-pen-mount/files ?

Edit: AI thinks Pilot G2 05 fine point 0.5mm pen. But it’s wrong…

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I’m 99.9% sure this is the pen Ryan uses. Amazon.com

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That is the pen. 0.3mm is clutch.

The pen holder looked like the same compliant mechanism as years past and I’m pretty sure those holder were printed at RMRRF or earlier. I think Ryan was hoping he had a few more in the box than he did. But they held up ok to the curious fingers.

He also wired an endstop switch to the macro button. That was nice. It did weird things if you pressed it before the last pattern finished. But we could be in the middle of a sentence and pop a new coaster in and press the button from either side of the table.

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I have spent more time than I would like to admit thinking about pen holders and I still haven’t built or seen what I consider the perfect one.

The features I want are:

  1. Should have a kinematic mount that allows swapping pens with excellent repeatability
  2. Each removable pen holder should allow adjustment or shimming such that changing pens results in perfect alignment with no software offsets. A separate alignment fixture could be used to align the pen tip relative to the kinematic mount.
  3. Pen force is independent of deflection, at least over a few mm of travel, which basically implies a flexure with:
    3.1 Low stiffness in Z travel
    3.2 High stiffness in 5 other axes
    3.3 Preload spring (or something, like weight) to provide near-constant force
    3.4 (implied by preload spring) Hard stop lifts the pen when Z lifts

Ideally the preload can be different for each pen, because a felt-tip pen or ball-point pen or engraving tool will want different amounts of force.

If a pen requires a cap (like a sharpie) then it must allow capping / uncapping the pen without messing up the fine-tuned alignment.

I would consider 0.1 mm relative alignment accuracy between colors to be success. 0.5 mm is marginal, and 1 mm is poor.

And for me, these are aspects that are not requirements:

  1. It need not be fully printed. Wire, rubber, magnets, weights, or other materials are on the table.
  2. It need not be small. Maybe long flexures can have better characteristics than short ones. Maybe wider spacing can have better torsional stiffness than narrow spacing.

Damn, now you got me thinking about this again… :thinking:

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I made this one which uses a small linear rail to keep it rigid but allow vertical movement. Loom bands act as a preload spring. It’ll hold a drag knife or pen. It mates with the dovetail mounting of my diode laser so not really much use to anyone else.

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The holder is the published one, I just zip tied it to the router instead of screw mounting to prevent the ā€œseems like overkill for a pen plotterā€ comments.

yup!

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I’ve found that an assorted length of 1/2" hex bolts work great to ā€˜pick your pressure’. It eliminates the issue of varied pen tip to work surface offsets altering spring pressure.


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