Chatter when cutting

brought a new 8mm tool bit which is designed for cutting mdf and partical board

They told me kitchen guys run them at 18m/m at 18000 rpm 18mm depth

done lot tests cant find happy medium running on partical board

running on my router tried 3000mm/m -4000 10000 rpm get good chip and finish between 4-6 doc, prob is its biting to hard and finished panels are 2-3mm to small

if i slow it down to between 1600 -2000 mm/m at 4-6 doc it cuts to size but is chattering and gumping up with glue from the material

all rollers belts are tight

i feel like its to grunty for my LR4 would i be right ?

think i may have brought an expensive paper weight

any suggestions on what to try would bee appericated

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a 4 flute is very hard to use on a routers rpm range.

Is your core tight? Can you wiggle it by the bit with just hand strength, like rock the core forward and backward and see if it comes off a rail. It’s a lot of vibration so stuff can get loose (ask how I know lol).

What’s your stopover %? If it’s more than 50%, it puts a lot of strain on the bit. I just figured that out last weekend, my default was at 75% and my LR4 was loud and shaky. I dropped it down to 45% and it was a lot happier.

Also after writing the above, I finally converted your mm/m to mm/s (preferred unit here), and realized you’re going really fast! 3,000 mm/min = 50 mm/s! That’s twice as fast as I go when roughing and slotting.. then I do like 45 mm/s on that 0.3 mm finish pass (for now still experimenting lol). Try going 20 mm/s (1,200 mm/min) and see, after making sure your core and tool holder are tight. But like Ryan said, that’s a lot of flutes.. single flutes work best at our rpms, so that could be causing the problem too, but would be an easy fix at least :slight_smile:

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starting to learn that now

I was thinking that after the bit arrived , and saw exactly what it was

, it runs through mdf nicley at 3000mm/m just not so much on the partical board

cores all tight , profile cutting out cabintery so slotting , slower is worse

might see if manufacture will do a partial refund , hes good to deal with

or its a paper weight

If you have to go fast to make it work just to less deep passes.

i tried that also, 3.mm/doc , but once it gets down a couple of passes it bites and steps out

looks like an expensive learning curve for me :cry:

That is a straight flute endmill, there is nowhere for the chips to go, are you using an air blast or vacuum anything since you are slotting.

That sounds like your router is not trammed. As your bit goes deeper your taking more material per cut

Yes has a big industrial extractor on it

i sent tool back to supplier , he analysed it

an he found it had only been cutting on one flute, he indicates it would be a run out on my collet

he sent me out couple of 1 flute 6mm down cuts , which im running at 1750mm/m 6.5mm doc

and getting really nice cuts

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30mm/s is impressive for a large downcut.

Runnout not an issue anymore, what did you do to improve it, new collet?

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yeah i know crazy ah ,he reckons i should be able to run even faster , will have play once i get this display unit finished

as lost few days due to the errors with that tool

the other bit was an 8mm id never used that collet before

the new tool is a 6mm which i don’t seem to be having issue with

hes going to make me a 6mm version of the original tool to trial

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the visiable lines for the steps , cant feel them when running finger over them , evn that tight corner at 1700 i thought it might not cut cleanly , but pretty happy with it

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